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Jessie [userpic]
Separation anxiety or stupidity in herd bound horse?
by Jessie (wrider)
at December 23rd, 2008 (02:53 pm)

Hello.  I am posting this in the hopes that I can get some assortment of advice!

I have an almost 8 year old appendix Quarter Horse gelding, Jiggs, that I have had since he was 2 and trained up for barrel racing.  He's a pretty spunky horse at times, but for the most part is very calm for a barrel racer (at least compared to my old horse).  I've been in college for the past four years and since June have been holding down a full time job.  Needless to say, though I've trained him fairly well, I think, I haven't had the amount of time to have worked with him that I would have liked.  So for future reference with his herd bound problem, this might be part of the problem.

Now, the past couple years he has been showing some very herdbound tendancies.  The first time I noticed it was trail riding and he'd crow hop and buck if he was ten feet behind the horse in front of him.  I kept at this issue and dialed him down to where he'd only prance if I made him stay out of sight of the herd. 

Next, he literally ran over my friend who was in the pasture trying to catch her mare.  Her mare was running from her and my horse was staying with her, regardless if there was a person in his way or not.  She came away with a few good scrapes, but was okay and understood that horses are horses and things like that can happen. 

Now staying with my in-laws with a older arab/cross mare, my husband and I put his 4 year old daugter on him in the pasture.  I thought it would be a good idea to remove my mother-in-laws mare so she wouldn't bother us and create a problem.  Well, little did I know that removing her would cause the problem.  Jiggs got away from my husband and took off with this poor little 4 year old on his back.  She fell off and broke her arm.  This, I know was caused by human error, and not so much Jiggs.

The next time I noticed how bad his herd boundness to my mother in laws horse was when I moved in with them this past summer and started working with him more often.  The mare he shared a pasture with would call and call and of course this would make Jiggs all upset and almost impossible to ride.  Though after a few days this stopped.  But then there were a few days where he'd get so worked up that he actually broke his lead rope from where he'd been tied and got loose in the yard trying to get back into his pasture.  We had a heck of a time catching him.  He was getting to the point where I knew he was getting dangerous.  He'd break loose from me wherever he saw the option, he'd kick and stomp at the stall walls if he was locked in and couldn't see her, and he'd get so distracted under saddle that I had a hard time bringing his attention to me. 

So, I had the two horses separated.  From then on, things were much, much better.

But, this past weekend the farrier came out and because of the snowy weather, we decided to have their hooves trimmed in the covered arena.  I brought Jiggs over and my mother in law already had her horse out and her feet were getting worked on.  I tied my horse to the flat bed truck and he stood there, quiet as could be while we waited.  Next thing I know, Jiggs is walking past me without his halter on!  I turned and saw that his halter was hanging from where it had been tied.  I wasn't too upset at this point and knew he'd probably been scratching and it fell off.  So I went over to unclip it and round him back up.  He, however, was being ornery and rather than let me catch him, he walked away from me.

Then, s**t hit the fan, at least that's how I feel about it.

I had just gotten him turned back towards me when he lit passed me and out the open arena doors.  My mother in law had walked off through the barn with Jiggs' buddy, the mare, and he was running full tilt for the other side of the barn where the pasture was.  I grumbled to the farrier that this was why I had separated them and went to go catch him.

As I exited the arena, I heard my father in law exclaim, and then my mother in law screaming his name.  Jiggs had come dashing out towards the pasture and run head long into my father in law.

It took several minutes of Jiggs running wildly about trying to get to the mare, but we finally caught him.  And now I am in a position where my mother in law wants Jiggs off her property as soon as possible because she doesn't think I can control him.  In my opinion, I blame her -  partly because to me it is common sense to wait for someone to catch their horse or get them under control before leaving with their buddy.  But my in laws are novice horsepeople at best and are accustomed to very well trained, older animals.

However, I know my horse has a problem, and I am looking for any and all advice to help my horse overcome this need to be with this other horse if she leaves his sight!  It might also help to know that he is not the most respectful of horses.  He has kicked me a few times, and when chased always kicks at the air behind him, making for close calls.  However, he is far from a mean horse and is awesome with my husband's daughter who, though afraid to ride him since breaking her arm, loves to lead him around.

Any advice will be appreciated! Thank you!

desire__x3 [userpic]
by desire__x3 (desire__x3)
at December 16th, 2008 (04:59 pm)

hi guys. sorry to interupt your friends lists. but i'm a college student and i just bought my first horse. i'm selling my graphite portraits to earn some extra money for emergencies. i would love to draw you and your horse. i can draw nearly any photo. pricing depends on size and difficulty of the image. send me an email and attach your image and i'll send you a price estimate. thanks for your support. and please spread the message around your barns.

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M. Grantaire [userpic]
by M. Grantaire (mariegrantaire)
at December 8th, 2008 (02:05 pm)

current mood: tired

Hey y'all, I'm new here. Not much to say about me, just a country girl from Montana. 21 years old, been riding horses since I was about 2, and barrel racing since I was 5. Haven't gotten to do it in a few years, though - I'm in college, and I can't afford to keep a horse. I go home as often as I can to ride though! My dad just got a new Quarter Horse who's 2, and I'm really looking forward to breaking him and hopefully turning him into a barrel horse. Tried showing once but I got bored real quick - turn n' burn baby!

Caly [userpic]
Opinions on Natural Horsemanship Gurus.
by Caly (goneriding24_7)
at March 12th, 2008 (09:39 pm)

Ok, I've always hated Parelli because he's a money squandering jerk, but I've recently given in and been looking everywhere for more tools to use in training my horses. I have read his book and am doing his level 1 program. I've learned a lot, but I don't suck up every little thing he does, and I'm certainly not following his program like I should (Because I HAVE to ride my horses).

I was just wondering what people's opinions were on Natural Horsemanship people. Do you think they're just hacks, or are you in my boat where you think they're just trying to get rich? I suppose you could also think they're the best thing ever. I'd like to get a discussion going on this with other barrel racers, the equestrian community is just to big for this, I'd rather keep it small for now, gather some thoughts, and maybe later I'll ask this same question there.

I'm all for being gentle and using positive reinforcement, and even considering the horse's prey nature in the training, but watching some of my Level 1 stuff I see things I really don't like. I've always been the take what I like from every trainer and combine it and create my own philosophy kind of person anyway, so this isn't surprising for me. Never the less, it pains me how expensive his crap is. Clinton Anderson is no better. I like Monty Roberts a bit better, as I have more respect for him, he doesn't seem to be making this a cash cow quite as much, neither does Stacy Westfall, and I think she's bloody amazing.

Comments, Discussion please! I'd love to know what you all think!

by ~ *MyLiFeIsAnOpArKiNgZoNe!! RuReAdY?(:P)* ~ (cancrasher009)
at February 8th, 2008 (09:07 am)

Name: Danie
Age: 22

Horse(s) Name: I have several. Right now my main barrel horses are Chaluka, Koy and Rio
Horse(s) Breed(s): Quarter Horses
Non-horse interests: What are those!!! haha my horses and rodeo are my intrests thats it thats all
Favorite Musical band or singer(write multiple if you want): Fall out boy all time fav....
Favorite Movie(Again, multiple if you so choose.): Super bad..that movie is badass
Other disciplines you ride, if any: Mainly western although i have started taking english lessons to improve my own training program
How many years have you ridden? my entire life
How many years have you ridden speed events? my whole life. my first barrel jackpot i was 3
Favorite Speed Event: barrell racing hands down
Favorite Horse Breed: I like a muscley quarterhorse with a good squirt of thoroughbred

Im from Hoosier Saskatchewan, Canada. Ive been barrel racing and training barrell horses my whole life. I went to Olds College with a major in Equine Science, minor in Western horsemanship and after college broke two year olds to ride and fixed problem barrel horsesfor two and a half years...we moved from alberta to saskatchewan and with that came no where to ride in the winter i had to quit training for a few months BUT IM STILL BARREL RACEING...most important and  my boyfriend and I have five two year olds of our own to break this spring and I am so excited to see how our babies are going to turn out. My goals for this year are to qualify for the Alberta barrel racing finals, the saskatchewan barrel racing finals, the KCRA finals, and haul to a few boarder country rodeos. As well as start my futurity prospect on barrels..haha i really have my work cut out for me but i am looking forward to chatting with you chickies and learning as much as i can from you!!!

~redrum*murder~ [userpic]
by ~redrum*murder~ (redrum425)
at January 10th, 2008 (08:21 am)

current mood: cold

 hey im new. but yea. my name is Ali. i love running barrels! i have a 7 year old gelding that i am starting on the barrels and hes learning fast. i would have started him sooner but i only got him last year, and he was a stud all his life... but i went ahead and gelded him for a good reason. but  not being a young colt he was bored in life and ready to do something.... and he has learned fast. he side passes and some other fancy stuff. but hes awsome.
And i also have another colt that i am riding. he is cool to. he small but very well built. hes got attitude but i havent started him on the barrels yet, we are working toward the stage of being just broke right now. but yea. thats my life, and my life is my horses. so yea. i just wanted to talk about them and that. sorry if i have bored you all....

Caly [userpic]
Winter season/my life to come
by Caly (goneriding24_7)
at October 2nd, 2007 (05:41 pm)

For those of you that live in colder states, do you ever feel like your life has run out of fulfillment in the fall/winter? Haha, WHY does Michigan's winter season suck worse than other cold weather states?

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Lana [userpic]
by Lana (grittybelle)
at September 22nd, 2007 (04:00 pm)

current mood: aggravated

I hate to be a spoiled brat, but I want my horses now please.  I want them to not be over an hour away at my parent's house.  I want them to be right outside the door like they used to be when I lived with Mom and Dad.  I want to be able to go to barrel races.  


I've been married for almost 4 months and the boys and girl are still at Mom and Dad's.  What am I waiting on?  A place to keep them?  Nope, got a pasture and a barn lined up that's 20 minutes away and get this....free.  All we have to do is clip the pasture and look after the guy's two horses.  I also have a perfectly good completely rebuilt horse trailer that was my Dad and mine's last project before I got married.  I
'm waiting on my Dad to get my truck repaired.  Dad has two trucks - a 95 Dodge Du-lie and a 91 Dodge 3/4 ton which is the truck that I first started showing with, and I LOVE it.  It just needed the motor adjusted and a little body work - mainly just paint.  We got the motor work done.  Check.  But the guy who is a friend and usually does our body work is a shit and won't call us back.  Daddy finally got mad and found another guy who has prices comparable to the "shit" and has decided to let him just do it.   It will be another two weeks or so before he can get it in the shop to paint it and hopefully he can get done with it pretty quick.  And just so you know, I will love my Daddy forever for doing this for me.  He's going to let me use the 91 Dodge until I buy my own pulling truck and he's always said that the horse trailer was mine.  I love my parents soooooo much.   

I just want to get back to riding with some consistency.  Last year I had Mononucleosis and was not allowed to ride until August and then it was way to hot to try to work out of shape horses so I just waited until it got cool. Then it was the holidays and I got to ride but not show.  Then in January we had all kinds of family problems - my grandmother got sick and died in February and that was quite a toll to the family and I was helping out with that so no riding, which was fine.  Then, I got married in June, so it was all wedding all the time until June.  

Ok.  I'm married now dammit.  I'm starting a new job.  I will soon have money to take care of my beasts.  


I am out of shape, and flabby and have gained like 15 pounds.  I have always struggled with my weight and my little secret weapon has always been riding.  You ride two barrel horses a day every day for 2-3 hours and you're gonna loose weight and be toned.  

Plus, I just miss them like crazy.  They are my kids.  I love them so much.  Two of the three I'm moving I've raised since one was 2 and the other was 3 and they are 7 and 8 now.  The other is a sweet 12 year old finished barrel horse that a friend has basically given me.  Such a sweet boy!

Lord, give me patience.  I hate to sound all bitchy and winny, but I really miss them.  I'm ready to get back to riding on a daily basis and going to barrel races.  I haven't seen my horse buddies in two years basically.  

It's not for much longer.  I hope.  cross posted to [info]equestrian and my personal journal

Caly [userpic]
stuff for sale
by Caly (goneriding24_7)
at August 9th, 2007 (02:52 pm)

I have a ton of english and western stuff for sale. Some is on ebay but most is on Tacktrader.com. (Need money now especially since I think I've found a Courbette that I want *huge grin* It just might FIT my horse!).
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Sam [userpic]
Need for Speed....
by Sam (fresco_senorita)
at July 13th, 2007 (08:38 pm)

Name: Sam
Age: 17
Horse(s) Name: Brown or Brownie.
Horse(s) Breed(s): QH/TB
Non-horse interests: rugby, iconing, and tons of TV!
Favorite Musical band or singer(write multiple if you want): Placebo, Nickelback, Snow Patrol,  The Fray, James Blunt, Garth Brooks, Johnny Cash and tons more!
Favorite Movie(Again, multiple if you so choose.): I'm just going to go with all my favorite horse movies: Seabiscuit, Hidalgo, and Second Chances (BARREL RACING MOVIE! *WOOT*)
Other disciplines you ride, if any: mostly barrelracing, polebending and goat tying.
How many years have you ridden? All My life.
How many years have you ridden speed events? 12 years
Favorite Speed Event: Barrel racing.
Favorite Horse Breed: Quarter Horse.

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